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Kaar Deerge

dear friends, i am looking for lyrics to a song by Sainkho Namchylak, Kaar Deerge... from album Time Out, if anyone could help me i would be very grateful.. mpolkowska@hotmail.com

Hi, I wish I could help, but I don't have that album. --Sborsody 21:23, 26 October 2006 (PDT)

I recently heard this song. The tune sounds like the same one Huun Huur Tu uses for the Tuvan Internationale. Have to go back and listen later to the lyrics... --Sborsody 23:05, 12 December 2006 (PST)

Copyrighted song lyrics

I'd like to post some traditional song lyrics as arranged by Huun Huur Tu in the liner notes to their latest CD. Would this be an unacceptable copyright violation? --Nisan 17:39, 6 March 2006 (PST)

Altai Sayan Tandy-Uula? Some of them are already here. For Kojamyk look at Tos. For Tandym look at Toorugtug taiga. Kongurai is Koŋgurej. Lyrics from traditional songs are not copyrighted. --Sborsody 18:29, 6 March 2006 (PST)

Wikipedia Language

Why aren't we making a Tuvan language area to Wikipedia? (ie tv.wikipedia.org)? There would still be lots of content for this site (lyrics, language lessons, lexicon). I'm sure lots of Tyva-Dyl speakers haven't heard of this site, but they could be ought translating Wikipedia articles. It seems to me that we ought to be more concerned with our community (Tuvan Enthusiasts). Robert

There is no tyv.wikipedia.org yet because there haven't been found any interested native speakers yet. If you know of any we can go from there. --Sborsody 15:00, 28 April 2006 (PDT)

Copyright Clarification

Since there is no TyvaWiki:Copyright, I thought I'd better ask what the copyright status of TyvaWiki is. I see that you removed GPL or whatever, but I'm not sure where that leaves us. I think that means, since we haven't specificed to give away any rights, there we're fully copyrighted, right? Maybe there is some license at Creative Commons that could meet our requirements? Robert 23:39, 23 September 2006 (PDT)

Maybe call me old-school. When I started on the Internet, people weren't paranoid copyright nazis. Everything was for educational purposes. I guess we have the 'war' between proprietary and open source to blame for the disappearance of a more innocent time. Sorry for the little rant. :) One thing that worries me in running a wiki, specifically the MediaWiki software, is that our readers may assume that our content works the same way as it does on Wikipedia. I think it was a bad decision on my part to originally start with GPL. Our content isn't original work, like the majority of Wikipedia is. We have a lot of traditional lyrics which can't be copyrighted or licensed (although you could copyright the translations!). The Texts category texts are pulled from educational 'readers' on the Tyvan language. We can't claim copyright or licensing rights to that either. If you add some original content and would like to have a license or copyright info for it, I recommend stating so in the individual article. Maybe we could add a GPL category that contains the licensing information and add any article or image that we want licensed to it. In general though, I think of this wiki as 'for educational purposes' and would rather not get tied up in copyright paranoia. We could compose a TyvaWiki:Copyright page together that incorporates some of these things if you feel up to it. --Sborsody 09:18, 25 September 2006 (PDT)
I like the old days too and I still believe in the dream of having everything online. Copyleft is good way to secure that. Anyway, I would be happy to make some small templates we could put at the bottom of pages that show "Public Domain" "GPL" or "Fair Use". I think, however, that there is some writing here that we should pick a license for. If we don't, we appear like the jerks who want to control everything, because it means we default to full copyright. Sounds like you're saying amounts to Public Domain for the site, which sounds great to me. Then we could just have templates on the pages that have non-public domain content. Robert 00:25, 26 September 2006 (PDT)
Templates would work. I always forget about templates. I've never heard before about defaulting to full copyright without explicitly saying so. --Sborsody 12:49, 26 September 2006 (PDT)
I'll get to work making "GPL", "Copyright - Fair Use" and "Mixed". I found a legal website that deliniates how full copyrights are retained unless otherwise specified upon creation. Robert 14:40, 26 September 2006 (PDT)

Automatic Man

If anyone has any files or groups of files of content that they would like uploaded to the side in any way, I have recently gotten the upper hand on Bots. On my own site I have uploaded 100MB+ of content using Perl/Python (programming languages) to reformat and add the text, so if anyone is sitting on anything because they think it's too much work ... maybe I can automate it for you! --Aquatiki 23:19, 23 January 2008 (PST)